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Cipher Jones Minmatar	Posted - 2010.07.09 18:14:00 - [1] Originally by: Zofe Stormcaller The first time someone gets ganked with a plex in the cargohold I want to see the killmail, and the impending forum thread of RRRRAAAAGGE and QQ. I want to buy the actual tears on ebay. PLex-o-gheddon. The dark harsh sandbox just got darker and harsher. This is clearly a signature.
Cipher Jones Minmatar	Posted - 2010.07.09 18:20:00 - [2] lets not forget that plex is till 100% secure and cannot be taken from you if you choose it not to be. 100% secure. You literally have to give it to someone. This is clearly a signature.
Cipher Jones Minmatar	Posted - 2010.07.09 18:33:00 - [3] I read that last post and the potential for profit will be, astronomical to say the least. You could make a kings ransom in a covert ops ship. This is clearly a signature.
Cipher Jones Minmatar	Posted - 2010.07.09 18:39:00 - [4] Originally by: Riedle Originally by: Melkath Bandrom Originally by: Riedle Deos the fact that your argument is illogical make any difference? Say I sell plex and immediately buy a T3 and said T3 done get blowed up - is that wrong too? Your arguments says that it is - yet seemingly you don't rage about that. Try to understand something first before you come out an whine about it. Especially something that you say will not affect you. No You are expounding on my original argument and putting hypotheticals on a specific situation. As Ori Blake said, Everything else is a one off. Top level only concerns me. Once the plex is redeemed, it is gone. Whatever else happens with the proceeds ,whether its isk profit from sale or a 30 day player extension, it is susceptible to the accepted game mechanics. That doesn't bother me. I don't have a single problem with losing a 300M isk ship should I sell a plex. It's the fact that having the CASH paid for plex stolen it before redeeming/selling it. THATS what I have a problem with. whatever is done AFTER I get my CASH value from it matters not to me But the plex is an ingame item just like the ship. 300 million isk in a raven or in a plex is the same exact value. The format they are in-game matters not. Engage the left side of your brain. Again I bring up the point that its still 100% secure. This is clearly a signature.
Cipher Jones Minmatar	Posted - 2010.07.09 19:09:00 - [5] Originally by: Melkath Bandrom Originally by: Cipher Jones Again I bring up the point that its still 100% secure. I don't think it is, why would they allow PLEX to drop if it were secure? I'm betting whoever picks it up can redeem/sell it as any other loot. It may be secure in that they wont get my personal or financial RL info, but nothing else Its secure because you do not have to undock to use it. You simply cannot be jacked for your plex unless you put it in your ship and fly with it. This is clearly a signature.
Cipher Jones Minmatar	Posted - 2010.07.09 19:30:00 - [6] Originally by: Bankoff DarkFusion You guys who are defending this idea are out of your mind. You want to beat people to a pulp because theyI think this is dumb? I'm failing Eve by not lining up to say how great CCP is? CCP asked for feedback. Giving it to them is not whining. Destroying an item that has been bought for cash so that the purchased service is never rendered is fraud. CCP could easily be sued over at least part of this change. You think that's unlikely? Companies get sued for stupid reasons every day. They give them the item and they give them the option to use the item 100% securely. They cannot be successfully sued over this. And you aren't failing eve yet. When you undock with a plex and then get ganked you fail eve and have to take the $17.49 remedial course. This is clearly a signature.
Cipher Jones Minmatar	Posted - 2010.07.09 19:47:00 - [7] Originally by: Bankoff DarkFusion [They give them the item and they give them the option to use the item 100% securely. They cannot be successfully sued over this. And then they create a gameplay system that detroys this item so that it can't be used, or that transfers the value of the item to someone who did not buy it. This is not just fraud but conspiracy to defraud. Doesn't matter whether the company can be successfully sued - you don't have to prove the case before it goes to trial. Do you think CCP will want to defend a lawsuit over this issue? What is CCP conspiring to defraud people of? This is clearly a signature.
Cipher Jones Minmatar	Posted - 2010.07.10 04:20:00 - [8] I have to point this out. Just because it is against the EULA to trade ISK does not mean it is worthless, it means it is against the rules to trade it. One of the most "eve famous" people has an add right on their website that sells and buys isk. It is also illegal to buy and sell *****, but if you think ***** has no value because of this we can all get a good laugh. I do not endorse or condone the violation of the EULA or rules of conduct in any way shape or form. But again, to deny that ISK has value is a ridiculous notion. This is clearly a signature.

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